There are incidents in one’s Life which defy Logic.

We, those who have not experienced them, brush them aside , saying it is a coincidence,vivid imagination.

Full of Life, we make jest of such things.

But when one faces difficult circumstances, one tends to clutch even a straw.

The difference between Gnani and ordinary mortals is that the former learns and proceeds towards Realization; we ,though for a moment are moved, get on with our Lives as usual!

I have personal experience of such incidents,

I have narrated a couple of them as Posts.

I have a friend, who is running a Media Group in Tamil ,a Film producer,Political commentator and very much down to earth.

Though not an Atheist or an Agnostic, one can not say he is deeply religious.

I met him , on his personal invitation, (after reading my blog,) in Chennai in March 2015 for the first time.

I went to his office around 2 pm and we were discussing many things, mainly Politics, News till 10.30 pm.

As I informed my eldest sister-in-law and my wife that I would be back in about two hours, they were worried and kept on calling me.

Finally I returned home by about 11.30pm.

What did we discuss at length?

As we were discussing politics and other things, topic turned towards Philosophy and Religion.

In the course of our talks he narrated this incident.

Let me narrate it in his words.

‘By now, you know I am not strictly religious, though I Believe in God.

I have been associated with Kanchi Mutt very closely and now have distanced by self after the passing away of the Maha Periyava.

I was then running more Magazines , which were trend setters and  I was kept busy .

During this period my wife fell ill and that too critically.

She was admitted to Apollo Hospitals ,Chennai.

She was on Oxygen and Doctors informed me that they had done their best and the rest is with God.

I was by her side for over eight days.

On the eighth day, I dozed off.

I had a vivid dream, where Goddess Abhirami bade me to come to Thirukkadavur.

I woke up.

I called my driver and proceeded towards Thirukkadavur.

It was Monson time in Tamil Nadu,July/August.

It was raining heavily.

With great difficulty we covered th distance in about ten hours and I reached the temple around 6 am.

The Sanctum had opened just then.

The Kurukkal, Archaka, was awaiting the arrival of Milk for morning Abhisheka.

Time wore by… 6.0..7… 7.30…

The archaka became restless as it was getting late and devotees have gathered and it was raining very heavily.

Then around 7.45 came a boy with an Aluminium Can of Milk.

The Archaka scolded him for being late.

The boy just smiled and went off saying that the Cows were sick.

The Abhishekam went on.

It was concluded by about 9 am.

Then came a man and asked the archaka for his forgiveness.

He stated that he could not provide the Milk that day as his cows were sick!

The archaka told him that a boy had come and delivered the Milk stating that the Cows were sick!

The man replied that he had no assistants!

..The Abhishekam over, Archanai began.

I started to offer details for the Archanai , but the Archaka kept on overlooking me and went on performing Archanai for the others.

I t was 9.30.

I asked him to perform the Archana .

He told me that the next Abhishekam will start shortly and he will perform the Archana, afer the Abhshekam and the mandatory Kattali Abhishekam by some other party, which was scheduled for the day.

I waited.

The Abhishekam over , the Archanai began for the other party who had scheduled the Archana for the day.

I was totally dejected as my archanai was not being done as I felt it was a bad omen.

But I looked on.

The Archanai Sankalpam began.

The Nakshatra was Magha, my wife’ nakshatra!

The name was my wife’s.!

Then the daughter’s name and nakshatra were recited,

They were my daughter’s!

I had realized then,

It was Abhirami’s way of Blessing Me!…

I did not do the Archanai as It had already been done.

…Darshan over, I started for Chennai and it continued raining heavily.

The Driver found it difficult to drive.

In the meanwhile I was running a high fever and was shivering, feeling giddy.

I told the driver to park the Car in a safe place.

I was shivering with fever and was delirious.

The driver said that he would manage by driving carefully.

I had dozed off and after an hour I saw a small girl sitting in the front seat near the driver, talking to him.

She was wearing a Green Petticoat,( a dress worn by young girls in the south)

I was trying to shout at the driver not to pick up hitch hikers.

If he wanted more money I could give it to him.

But no words came!

I slept off.

As I  woke up, the Driver was saying,

‘Sir, We are nearing Chennai, it is 5.30″

I asked him how it could be as I told him to wait and asked him.

‘Where is the girl whom you picked up?

He replied that the girl got down at the outskirts of Tirukkadavur saying that there would be no problem in reaching Chennai.

And that I and asked him to pick her up and was chatting with her!

He said he did not charge her.

We reached the Hospital.

My wife was looking normal and her oxygen had been removed.

She was able to talk and told me that some one who said he was close friend of mine gave her Kumkum prasadm from Thirukkadavur.

She asked me that who it was as she knew all my close friends.

I could not place him even after my wife’s description of him.

Then I remembered the Deity Abhiramai was wearing green Petticoat after the Abhishekam!

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Vedas are the signposts informing people about the route to be taken by one who wants to realise the Fundamental Cause, The Reality, the Brahman.

This can be only through experience and not by logic alone.

Logic is to be used to reinforce Faith, not to destroy it.

Logic can take only a few steps, while experience with honest Logic can take you places.

What is Honest logic?

The Logic that tells you that Logic ends here and only experience alone can take you further.

This is done by the Vedas.

The Vedas were not written by any one.

They are the experiences of great realized souls and as such contain gems of Truth.

As with experiences, they are varied.

People react differently to experiences.

The impression en experience leaves on one differs from the other.

Some times the same experience might leave different impression at different times.

And our grasp of, reaction to Experience is determined by Disposition.

So the though the Truth is One, the Perspectives are Many.

All are correct.

For, each perspective is unique.

Therefore the Path to God is varied.

The experiences are given in the Vedas, and other Texts of Hinduism, Sanatana Dharma.

Each experience is unique.

They are expressions of experiences which ae, as I said earlier, by Dispositions.

One might like to be busy, work.

Another emotional.

Yet another highly intellectually disposed.

To suit these dispositions there are three various Paths in Hinduism.

Broadly classified as,

Gnyana Yoga, the Path of Knowledge.

Karma Yoga, Path of Action,

Bhakthi Yoga, Path of Surrender,Bhakti,Love to God,

Raja Yoga, Path of Mind Regulation.

There are two systems in Raja Yoga.

One is Yoga by Patanjali and another is by Thirumoolar.

Though essentially they are the same, minor differences in application may be noticed.

Then we have Siddhas, both from the South and North of Vindhyas in India.

Generally these Siddhas of the North follow Patanjali, and in South the Siddhas follow Agastya, Bhogar.

Patanjali is reported to be a disciple of Bhogar.

For all the First Siddha is Shiva.Shiva

Of the Siddhas of from the Himalayas, Kriya yogi Mahavtar Babaji is well-known.

But some basic details, most of us are unaware of.

It is presumed that He is from the North of Vindhyas,possibly from Himalayas.

Though it is incorrect to assign geographically limit these realized Souls, I am providing some information for the records,

‘Mahavatar Babaji (IAST: Mahāvatār Bābājī) is the name given to an Indian saint and yogi by Lahiri Mahasaya and several of his disciples^[2] who met Mahavatar Babaji between 1861 and 1935. Some of these meetings were described by Paramahansa Yogananda in his book Autobiography of a Yogi, including a first hand telling of Yogananda’s own meeting with Mahavatar Babaji.^[3]Another first hand account was given by Yukteswar Giri in his book The Holy Science.All of these accounts, along with additional meetings with Mahavatar Babaji, are described in various biographies of those mentioned by Yogananda.

..There are very few accounts of Babaji’s childhood, one source of information is the book Babaji and the 18 Siddha Kriya Yoga tradition by Marshall Govindan. According to Govindan, Babaji was named Nagarajan (king of serpents) by his parents. V.T. Neelakantan and S.A.A. Ramaiah founded on 17 October 1952, (they claim – at the request of Babaji) a new organisation, “Kriya Babaji Sangah,” dedicated to the teaching of Babaji’s Kriya Yoga. They claim that in 1953 Mahavatar Babaji told them that he had been born on 30 November 203 CE in a small coastal village now known as Parangipettai, in Tamil Nadu, India. Babaji’s Kriya Yoga Order of Acharyas Trust (Kriya Babaji Sangah) and their branch organisations claim his place and date of birth.He was a disciple of Bogar and his birth name is Nagarajan’

For More about Him and His System follow the last Link.

Yogananda’s description

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahavatar_Babaji

http://www.babajiskriyayoga.net/

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I have written quite a few posts describing the approach Of Hinduism towards God.

God  as The Reality, on the one hand is treated as A principle without Attributes, on the other it reveals God is closer to Man if  one approaches Him with Devotion,Love.

Lord Krishna declares in the Bhagavad Gita that He would appear to the Devotee in the Form He wishes and prays and Grant him His wishes in the Form of the God He worships.

And in the Path of Devotion in Hinduism, God , can and was approached in the Form of a Relative,

Mother,Father,Son,Child,Friend……..in as many as forms as there are relationships.

God has also been approached as a Lover!

And He responded!

There is yet another instance that many, who do not know Tamil, may be unaware of.

That Sundarar, a Devotee of Lord Shiva, asked the Lord to go and mediate on behalf him to his paramour!

And The Lord obliged!

Shiva had earlier  stopped Sunadarar’s marriage claiming that Sundara was Shiva’s Slave, as per the document executed by Sundarar’s ancestor and Shiva had documents to support it!

And in a Court, Panchayat, Shiva proved it.

During the course of the altercation on this issue, Sundara called Shiva as a Lunatic.Pitha(Tamil)

Later when Shiva asked Sundarar to compose Hymns on Him(after Sundarar realized the Man who visited him was none other than Shiva), Sundarar was at a loss and asked the Lord ‘

‘How can I sing on You, The Lord,whom I called as a Lunatic’

Shiva replied,

Start with the term thou have addressed Me, Pitha, Lunatic’, the first song of his Thevaram, the songs in praise of Shiva.

Sundarar composed.

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He did ans He will.

I shall narrate that later.

Tiruvennainallur Temple, where Shiva revealed Himself to Sundarar  -Basic information.

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During the course of research about the spread of Sanatana Dharma throughout the world, I have come across some curious facts.

Sanatana Dharma was in place in the South of the Vindhyas, even before Sarasvati Valley ,Harappan civilization.

While the Rig veda is dated around 5000 BC, there is a site with artifacts of advanced Tamil Culture, near Chennai and it is dated to be around a Million Years!

The Thiruvannamalai temple ,also in South is dated around a Billion years.

This Olmec king with Africoid facial features, rediscovered in 1858 at the Tres Zapotes archeological site in the Mexican state of Veracruz, is convincing evidence of the 3,000-year presence of Africans in Mexico but was omitted from the Oakland Museum of California exhibit

Olmech King with Tuft? The Olmec king’s Africoid hairstyle with braided hair is further evidence that Africans came to Mexico at least 3,000 years ago.

Tirupati arch is dated to be 2100 Million years old.

Agastya’s crossing to South India is dated with the help of Astronomy around 5000 BC.

The ancestor of Lord Rama, Satyavrata Manu migrated from the South to Ayodhya, where his son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dynasty.

Lord Rama performed Pooja to Lord Shiva at Rameswaram after he killed Ravana.

The Tamil origins have been observed in the case of,

Sumerians.

Babylonians,

Minoans,

Mayans,

Aztecs.

Incas,

Polynesians and

Chinese.

But as things stand now, two ancient Histories seem to have been erased memory.

One is Arabia, where one does not have much to know, by being informed that before the arrival of Prophet, the Arabs were savages!

I have posted articles to disprove this by providing information about the connection between Tamils, Tamil God Idol excavation in Oman,Tamil practices and the existence of Shiva Temple in Mecca,

But the African connection is mired in obscurity.

I have  few posts on African connection to Sanatana Dharma.

Now I have come across information that the The African ancestors, Olmecs,who later moved on to America,incidentally these Americans, were also from Tamils, were Tamils.

Features, Language origins point to this.

Ancient Tamil Texts, Tholkaappiyam onwards mention Kumari Kandam, a land mass , since gobbled by a Tsunami, had Africa a part of India as we have it now.

O it could be the other way around.

Though some migration from India, then called Bharatavarsha was through the Northern parts of India, through Afghanistan, Iraq, there was also Migration from the South.

The migration of Hindus to Greece, Africa is from the  south , considering th remains found in these areas are mostly that of Gods more venerated in the South, Shiva, Ganesha and Murugan(Subrahmanya)

Now Read On.

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During the 17th century, the famous orientalist Edward Pococke noticed a disturbing similarity between classical Greek and Sanskrit. In his book,India in Greece, he showed that nearly all the place and tribal names of the Greeks had their similar correspondences in Northern India, especially in Afghanistan. The 18th century English scholar, William Jones, discovered the similarity of Sanskrit with many European languages, including Greek and Latin. Godfrey Higgins also supported their views in his two volume work,Anacalypsis. They and other distinguished linguists of the time concluded that non-Africanoid mankind probably originated in India, the Near East, and Siberia. These 17th and 18th century scholars were able to show that place, tribal, and religious names tended to stay the same, no matter how far certain ancient tribes dispersed themselves in different parts of the earth.

In the 1900s, Mexican scholars noted that the Nahuatl language is derived from Sanskrit. Even the word Nahua derives from the Sanskrit word for "sailor:" Nava or Navaja. Like their brother Allemans in Germany, the Olmecs could pronounce "V" only as "W."

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In ancient Northern India, a religio-political savant was known as Ma-gul, Mo-gul or Ul-mag, which meant "The Great God Ul." The syllables were interchangeable.

They were also called Eu-lama or Eu-rama (Aram), according to the different tribes' ability to pronounce "R" and "L." Eu = "Great." Rama/Lama = "Priest." Even today, among the Moslems, an Ulama or Ulema is a religious scholar and leader. There was even an ancient Near Eastern nation named Elam.

These distinguished priest scholars were additionally called Ul-man, Olman, or Ul-manu. meaning "Deified Sovereigns of the Earth."

When the non-Africanoid races of mankind left India for other parts of the world, the Ul-mags continued to call themselves Alleman (Germans), Aramean or Aramaic, and Olman, Ulmak or Olmek, in ancient Mexico. It is significant to note that the Phoenician sailor-traders had many names, one of which was Aram (Aramean). The Huichol Indians of Nayarit, Mexico call the port of San Blas Aramara, named after the India-Indian port they left on their voyage to America. Could this account for the name of the Nahuas?

The bible mentions that Solomon imported Almug trees from Sophir which was part of the northwestern coast of India: Sauvira. Scholars tell us that the Almug was really the Sandalwood tree. I'm not disputing that, but I am wondering why the Olmecs called the rubber tree Ulama(k). Just as the India-Indian Almug tree was held to be extremely sacred among the ancient Hindus, so also did the Olmecs revere the sacredness of the Ulama(k) tree.

A Sanskrit name for a particularly viscous sap is Urj. The Olmecs called the sap of their Ulama(k) tree Olli/Ulli. Olli was regarded as a sacred substance of life, like blood. Often, Olli sounded like Ollin because the Nahua-speaking people tended to nasalize the last syllable.

As I have stated, the Olmecs probably could pronounce "R" only as "L." The double "LL" in Spanish is regarded as a separate letter, sounding like Elye or Eljeh, according to the dialect being spoken. For instance, the Argentinians pronounce "Y" plus a vowel, as "J." For that reason, what the ancient Ul-mags or Mo-guls of Afghanistan called Urj, the Olmecs pronounced as Olji/Ulji.

Ulama - the ball game of life and death

The Olmecs played a type of sacred ball game, the name of which was the same as their sacred tree: Ulama. This holy ball game was played by all the Indians of the American Southwest, as far as the northern borders of South America itself...

The term Dravidian comes from the Sanskrit term Dravida, historically referring to Tamil Indians. There are three subgroups within the Dravidian language family: South, Central and North Dravidian which correspond to these regions of the Indian subcontinent.

The story goes back even further than this. As a leading proponent of the popular “alternative history” theory, Dr Hromnik contends that Mpumalanga was settled by ancient sea-faring Hindus some 40,000 years ago. They came for the ivory, the gold and the iron and erected temples and astronomical observatories on mountain tops. They built strong stonewalled cities from which they hunted, mined and traded throughout Southern Africa.

Dr. Hromnik believes that these people, who were mainly speakers of Dravidian languages and early Shivites by religion, were responsible for the ancient gold mines found in South Africa, Mozambique and Zimbabwe…

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The legacy of the Hindu empire is still reflected in local place names. Based on 15 years of research and his knowledge of Dravidian history, Dr. Hromnik believes that before the time of Christ, Indian traders named Komates, crossed the Indian Ocean in sailing boats manned by their Indonesian slaves. Like the Dutch East India Company who came later, they were driven by Monsoon trade winds blowing towards Africa and would return on reverse trade winds to India with their gold and ivory. This is supported by Biblical records which tell of the existence of gold and of the ancient gold trade in Africa.

The Komates settled with their Indonesian slaves in these regions, and then gradually moved further inland from the river mouths, seeking gold, and building their temples known as litaku. They mixed with the local !Kung (Bushmen), “the real people,” who are also called the !Kung-San. This gave rise to the Ottentotu (Hottentot).

The legacy of this Hindu empire is still reflected in many local place names. Between Natal, and Mpumalanga, South Africa, near the Swaziland border with South Africa, one finds the name Komati everywhere. This is also the region where Shebe, the richest gold mine in the world, is situated. Komati Gorge, Komati River, Lomati River, Komatiland and Komatipoort. It’s not much of a stretch to see that Komati is a contraction of the name Komates.

It is estimated that there are over 20,000 ancient stone ruins scattered throughout the mountains of southern Africa……

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The Komatis are said to have originally lived in large numbers along the Godavari River, which the locals called Gomati or Gomti. TheSanskrit Gomati was rendered into Telugu as Komati.

Hanumantha Rao noted that the merchant classes preferred Jainism for gaining social status and respectability, and the erstwhile Baniasbecame Gomati or followers of the Gomata cult in medieval times. The story of Vasavi, the caste goddess of the Vaishyas narrated in the Vaishya Purana is said to have definite Jain overtones.

According to Rao, there is an alternative etymology for the word Komti, as the “derivation of the word from gomata, the great Jaina saint, which implies that they were followers of Gomata cult or were originally Jains”.

Dwarakanath Gupta says that “These tradesmen (Beharulu) who hailed from Gouda Desa took to Jainism and adopted the ‘Gomata’ cult. The word Gomata got distorted slowly as Gomatlu, Kommathulu, Komattulu. In the Tamil and Malayalam languages the word ‘Komati’ is in use. These Jain Vysyas slowly gave up Jainism and embraced the Vedic religion during its revival.

http://johnlbradfield.com/history/gold-in-south-africa-and-the-ancient-indian-connection/

http://www.viewzone.com/gene.olmec.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arya_Vaishya

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By disposition a Brahmin is Pious and is expected to learn Vedas,Teach them,

“Adhyaapanam Adhyayanam

Yajanam Yaajanam Tathaa

Daanam Pratigraham Chaiva

Brahmanaanaamakalpayaat”

Adyayanam-Pracctice of reciting the Vedas, with meaning.

Adhyaapnan-Teaching of the Vedas along with the Astras(scientific Arms) and Satras(Ordinary weapons of war)

Yajanam-performance of the Yagnas and Yagas.

Definition Of Brahmin,Duties

Because of their disposition and non attachment to things worldly, they were the the Perceptor ,Gurus of the Kings, who are normally Kshatiyas.

Sage Vasishta is the Raja Guru of Ikshvaku Dynasty, Dasaratha,Rama.

However at times they had taken over the reigns of running a Kingdom.

It is debatable whether they have been successful.

List of Brahmin Kings.

urya, King of Kalinga whose gotra was Kashyap.
Soma, King of area near Yamuna river whose gotra was Atreya.
Mangal, King of Avanti whose gotra was Atri.
Budha, King of Magadh whose gotra was Angiras.
Guru, King of Sindhu whose gotra was Bhargav.
Shukra, King of Bhojkot whose gotra was Kashyap.
Shani, King of Saurashtra whose gotra was Kashyap.
Rahu, King of Babar whose gotra was Maitrenis.
Ketu, King of Kalinga whose gotra was Jaimini.
Raja Dahir ,
pushyamitra shung,,
devbhuti,,
susharma,,
shimuk,
Poru who fought against Sikandar was also Brahmin, pushyabhuti shung was the 1st bhrman king of india,
dantidurg,
,vishbandan,
Peshwas ,
Kings of Sindh ,
Lakshmibai,
Kings of Bengal,
Sung dynasty ,
Kuber ; Lankesh.
Shivaji was Kaushik,
Lord Buddha was Gautam,
Achyutrai from Vijayanagar,
The Pallavas were an example of Brahmakshatriyas as that is what they killed themselves.
King lilitaditya was rules on Kashmir or central asia .
King Rudravarma of champa (vietnam) of 657 A.D.
King jayavarma one of the kambuja (Kampuchea) of 781 A.D
…Pushyamitra Sunga,
Vasudeva Kanva,
Satavahanas also brahmin Emperors,
Raja Harishchander ,
Samrat Hem Chandra Vikramaditya whose gotra was Parashar,
Raja Birbal,
A Raam mohan Rai.
Raja Bhrat (Bharat)

Important Brahmins ( from 19 Century)

 GREAT REVOLT OF 1957- Mangal Pandey who shot the first bullet, Rani Lakshmi Bai, Tatya Topey.  SOCIO-RELIGIOUS REFORMERS – Raja Rammohan Rai called Father of modern India, Debendranath Tagore, Pratap Chandra Majumdar (reformers), Ishwar Chandra Vidya Sagar (scholar), Swami Dayanand Saraswati, Sri V Narayan Agnohotri, R G Bhandarkar, M G Ranade, Vishnu Shastri Chiplunkar, K T Teelang, C V Joshi, G G Agarkar, Gopal Hari Deshmukh and Vishnu Bhikaji – crusaded against irrationality & other evils present at that time in the Indian societies.  Ramakrishna Paramhans spiritual saint who is more known by name of his disciple Swami Vivekanand who introduced principles of Hinduism to the world.  First Hindu spiritual teacher to visit U S A was Mr. Joshi, followed by others like P C Majumdar. B B Nagarkar, Narsimhacharya, Swami Ramtirath & Dr S Radhakrishnan.  Surinder Venkatesh Ketkar- First Indian to receive Doctorate from American University  NOBLE LAURITES – Rabindra Nath Tagore, C V Raman, Amartya Sen ~ 2 ~  FIRST TO CRITICISE BRITISH RULE – Bankim Chandra Chaterji, M G Ranade, Surendra Nath Banerji  FIRST PRESIDENT OF INDIAN NATIONAL CONGRESS – Vyomesh Chandra Banerji  One of most prominent leaders of Garam Dal & Naram Dal of then Congress party were Lokmanya Tilak & Gopal Krishan Gokhle.  KRANTI AGAINST BRITISH RAJ – Vasudeo Vasant Phadke, Chapekar brothers,Vishnu Ganesh Pingale, Bhai Parmanad, Birendra Nath Chattopadhyay, Bagvati Charan Bohra, Chandra Shekhar Azad, & Durga Bhabhi  NATIONALISTIC SLOGANS – “VANDE MATARAM”, “SWARAJ IS MY BIRTH RIGHT” & ‘SARFAROSHI KI TAMMANNA AB HAMAREY DIL ME HAI’ were written by Bankim, Tilak & Ram Prasad Bismil  REVOLUTIONERY WOMEN WHO SUFFERED UNDER BRITISH RAJ – Bala Devi, Vimal Pratibha Devi, Kalpana Dutt, Suhasini Ganguli, The Mukerji sisters – Usha & parul.  Sarojini Naidu, Kamla Nehru, Vijai luxmi Pandit- participated in Gandhian movement.  FIRSTS IN INDIA – o Satyendra Nath Tagore – First I C S Officer o Rabindra Nath Tagore Nobel Prize o Sarojini Naidu 1st Woman Congress President & governor of UP o Chakravarti Rajgopalachari- 1 st Governor General of India & 1st Bharat Ratna Award Winner, o Pt Jawahar Lal Nehru- 1 st Prime minister o Vjai luxmi Pandit 1st Woman Ambassador & Minister of State o CD Deshmukh 1st Finance Minister to present General budget o Ganeshvasudeo Malvankar 1st Speaker of Lok Sabha o S Mukherji 1st Chief of Air Staff o Vinoba Bhave 1st Roman Magasaysay Award winner o Dr S Radhakrishnan 1st elected President of India o Sucheta Kriplani, 1st Woman Chief Minister o G Sankar Kurup 1st Janpith Award Winner o Drba Banerji, 1st Woman Pilot of Indian Airlines o Mihir Sen 1st to swim across English Cannel o Udai Shankar 1st dancer to perform abroad o Atal Bihari Vajpaye 1st Hindi Speaker at UNO o Indira Gandhi 1st woman Prime minister of India o Rakesh Sharma 1st Indian Astronaut o Morarji Desai 1st Nishane-Pakistan winner o Sushmita Sen 1st Miss Universe o Saurav Ganguli 1st Cricketer in the world to win four consecutive “Man of the Match” awards in one day internationals.

Citations,

http://kanyakubj.org/notable.pdf

While one reads about the lost continents of Lemuria and Kumarikandam, one is likely to assume that both are the same.

This is due to the hazy impression one gets about the Tsunami that was the cause for the massive upheaval in the south of the Vindhyas, the Dravida Desa.

Geographical Position of Mu.

hypothetical sketch of the monophyletic origin and extension of the twelve races of Man from Lemuria over Earth.” From Haeckel, Natürliche Schöpfungsgeschichte, Plate XV. Note the differences in the German version (1868) without Lemuria and the English version (1876) with Lemuria, after 1870 Haeckel adopted and promoted the idea of a sunken continent in the Indian Ocean.

There  (three?) were two Tsunamis mentioned in the Tamil Classics, Silappadikaram, Manimeghalai and Jivaka Chintamani.

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Since there were at least two references to Tsunamis and four references to earth quakes in Sangam Tamil and post Sangam Tamil verses we can be sure of some natural catastrophes. The reason for the doubts about their existence came from the big number of kings, big number of poets they sponsored and the years the kings ruled. If we take those years as exaggerated or coded language then we can reconcile the contradictions.

Adirakku Nallar, the commentator of Tamil epic Cilappatikaram had given the geography of the Tamil Land that was devoured by the sea. He wrote that there were seven big areas and each one was divided into seven smaller areas. Seven is a sacred number for Hindus and this type of land division is already in Hindu mythologies. When the first Tamil Sangam at South Madurai went into the sea ,they moved south and established the second academy at Kapatapuram. When that was also devoured by the sea they moved further south and established the third Tamil Sangam in modern Madurai. During the second academy Tolkappiyam was written by Tolkappiyar. At present Tolkappiyam  is the oldest available Tamil work, which is grammar book. Scholars date it to first century BC or AD. Some kings and poets who were part of First (Murinjiyur Mudinagarayar) and Second Sangam wrote a few poems which are included in Sangam corpus of Tamil literature ( Panamparar, Kakkaipatiniyar).

Any student of linguistics will easily find out that their poems were not very old as claimed by the commentator. The language of Tolkappiyam and verses by Muda Thirumaran (King during second Tamil Sangam) and Murinjiyur Mudinagarayar (First Tamil Sangam)betray their age. The language was not very different from other Sangam poems. If we apply the thumb rule followed by Max Muller to date the Vedic literature (two hundred years for language changes) both Tolkappiyam and other Sangam works will be grouped under the same period. Tolkappiyar himself indirectly says that he compiled whatever materials available at that time. He adds in hundreds of places the journalist’s cliché “they say”, “it is said that”. This makes it clear that he was not the one who wrote every bit of the book, but it was only a compilation. If we go by his language we can’t put him back any further than first century. His colleague Panamparar wrote the introduction (prefatory verse) for his treatise. His language was not archaic either.

The commentator of “Iraiynar Agapporul” gives a full account of the three Tamil Sangams .In the background of this linguistic evidence and in the absence of any historical proof, the claim that the  First Tamil Sangam existed for 4400 years under  89 kings and 4449 poets composed poems wont command any credibility. It is the same story about Second Tamil Sangam which existed for 3750 years  under  59 kings and 3700 poets. The third Tamil Sangam existed for 1850 years.’….

I am of the opinion that the dates mentioned around 1 Ad or even 5000 BC may not be correct, considering the references one finds about the Tamils in the Vedas,  when Rig-Veda has been dated around 5000 years ago, the date of Tamils should have been pushed earlier.

Based on the evidence available about the two Tsunamis, it is quite probable, the break of the South, Tamil Nadu could have been in two phases.

One when Lemuria got disengaged from the Indian Mass.

The other, Kumarikandam.

Considering the facts that,

Manu Precede Daksha,

This Manu, of Kali Yuga, Satyavrata Manu, migrated from the South to Ayodhya,

Manu’s are for Manvantaras and hence precede the known history,

Shiva worship was present in the South even before the Tsunamis,

The relics of Shiva Ganesha and Murugan are found in the Middle east, Europe, Americas, Russia and Africa,

Vishnu relics are found in New Zealand and Australia,

it is probable that these two landmasses  were separated b considerable length of Time.

I am looking into which one was submerged earlier b referring ti archeological, Astronomical and linguistic evidence from various cultures from the East and West of the Present India.

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Lemuria or Mu is the name of a hypothetical continent that allegedly existed in one of Earth’s oceans, but disappeared at the dawn of human history. The concept and the name were proposed by 19th century traveler and writer Augustus Le Plongeon, (1825-1908), who claimed that several ancient civilizations, such as those of Egypt and Mesoamerica, were created by refugees from Mu – which he located in the Atlantic Ocean. Egypt was founded by Queen Moo, a refugee from the land’s demise. Other refugees supposedly fled to Central America and became the Mayans.

After his investigations of the Maya ruins in Yucatan, Le Plongeon claimed that he had translated ancient Mayan writings, which supposedly showed that the Maya of Yucatan were older than the civilizations of Greece and Egypt, and additionally told the story of an even older continent. Le Plongeon actually got the name “Mu” from Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg who in 1864 mistranslated what was then called the Troano Codex using the de Landa alphabet. That was wrong as recent translations of the Troano Codex have shown it to be treaties on astrology. Brasseur believed that a word that he read as Mu referred to a land submerged by a catastrophe. Le Plongeon then identified this lost land with Atlantis, and turned it into a continent which had supposedly sunk into the Atlantic Ocean:..

Churchward claimed that more than fifty years prior, while he was a soldier in India, he befriended a high-ranking temple priest who showed him a set of ancient “sunburnt” clay tablets, supposedly in a long lost “Naga-Maya language” which only two other people in India could read. Having mastered the language himself, Churchward found out that they originated from “the place where man first appeared – Mu.” The 1931 edition states that “all matter of science in this work are based on translations of two sets of ancient tablets:” the clay tables he read in India, and a collection 2,500 stone tablets that had been uncovered by William Niven in Mexico.

Churchward gave a vivid description of Mu as the home of an advanced civilization, the Naacal, which flourished between 50,000 and 12,000 years ago, was dominated by a “white race” that was superior in many respects to our own. At the time of its demise, about 12,000 years ago, Mu had 64,000,000 inhabitants and many large cities, and colonies in the other continents.

Churchward claimed that the landmass of Mu was located in the Pacific Ocean, and stretched east-west from the Marianas to Easter Island, and north-south from Hawaii to Mangaia. He claimed that according to the creation myth he read in the Indian tablets, Mu had been lifted above sea level by the expansion of underground volcanic gases. Eventually Mu was completely obliterated in almost a single night after a series of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, “the broken land fell into that great abyss of fire” and was covered by “fifty millions of square miles of water.

Churchward claimed that Mu was the common origin of the great civilizations of Egypt, Greece, Central America, India, Burma and others, including Easter Island, and was in particular the source of ancient megalithic architecture. As evidence for his claims, he pointed to symbols from throughout the world, in which he saw common themes of birds, the relation of the Earth and the sky, and especially the Sun. Churchward claims the king of Mu was Ra and he relates this to the Egyptian god of the sun, Ra, and the Rapanui word for Sun. He claimed to have found symbols of the Sun in Egypt, Babylonia, Peru and all ancient lands and countries – it was a universal symbol.

Churchward attributed all megalithic art in Polynesia to the people of Mu. He claimed that symbols of the sun are found depicted on stones of Polynesian ruins, such as the stone hats (pukao) on top of the giant moai statues of Easter Island. Citing W.J. Johnson, Churchward describes the cylindrical hats as spheres that seem to show red in the distance, and asserts that they represent the Sun as Ra. He also incorrectly claimed that some of them are made of “red sandstone” which does not occur in the island. The platforms on which the statues rest (ahu) are described by Churchward as being platform-like accumulations of cut and dressed stone, which were supposedly left in their current positions awaiting shipment to some other part of the continent for the building of temples and palaces.He also cites the pillars erected by the Maori of New Zealand as an example of this lost civilization’s art work. In Churchward’s view, the present-day Polynesians are not descendants of the dominant members of the lost civilization of Mu, responsible for these great works, but survivors of the cataclysm that adopted the first cannibalism and savagery in the world.

Churchward’s Books

Volume 1 – The Lost Continent of Mu set out Churchward’s theory utilizing a “vast knowledge of science, ancient art and history, mythology and the occult” to recreate the splendor and doom of this hidden antediluvian world. Lemuria or Mu was about 5,000 miles long and 3,000 miles wide. The Garden of Eden was not in Asia but on a now sunken continent in the Pacific Ocean. The Biblical story of Creation came first not from the peoples of the Nile or the Euphrates Valley but from this now-submerged continent, Mu – the Motherland of Man…

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When ones across the archeological evidence in the areas beig called once belonging to Lemuria, indicate a confirmed Hindu presence and the apread of Tamil culture.

Kumari Kandam Evidence.

According to Silappadhikaram, one of the Five Great Epics of Tamil Literature written in 2nd century CE, states that the “cruel sea” took the Pandiyan’s land, part of which was present between the rivers Pahruli and the mountainous banks of the Kumari. These rivers are said to have flowed in a now-submerged land.

Adiyarkkunallar, a 12th-century CE commentator on the epic, explains this reference by saying that there was once a land to the south of the present-day Kanyakumari, which stretched for 700 kāvatam from the Pahruli river in the north to the Kumari river in the south.
The modern equivalent of the measurement kāvatam, which is also known as kātam in Tamil, is a distance of 6.25 miles (10.06 km).[

Kanakkathikaram, a 15th century Tamil Mathematical literary work which is in the form of poems, defines the length of 1 kāvatam(1 kātam) as 24,000 muzham(33,000 feet, 6¼ miles) and it also defines the time taken to cover it which is the distance that can be covered by normal walk in 7½ Nāzhigai or 1 Sāmam(equivalent to 3 hours).
So, the distance of 700 kāvatam is equivalent to 4,375 miles (7,041 km) in modern day measurements.

This land was divided into 49 nadu(countries), or territories, which he names as seven coconut territories (elutenga natu), seven Madurai territories (elumaturai natu), seven old sandy territories (elumunpalai natu), seven new sandy territories (elupinpalai natu), seven mountain territories (elukunra natu), seven eastern coastal territories (elukunakarai natu) and seven dwarf-palm territories (elukurumpanai natu).
All these lands, he says, together with the many-mountained land that began with KumariKollam, with forests and habitations, were submerged by the sea.
Two of these Nadus or territories were supposedly parts of present-day Kollam and Kanyakumari districts.

Citations.

http://www.crystalinks.com/lemuria.html

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2015/03/03/lemuria-kumari-kandam-verified-different-landmass/

http://tamilandvedas.com/2012/03/20/three-tamil-sangams-myth-and-reality-2/

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I have been researching into the origins of Shiva worship in the South.

I have been referring to, apart from  Sanskrit texts, Tamil Texts,Temple architecture and Temple histories of south and north India.

In this search,I have noticed that there were at least two tsunamis mentioned in the Tamil Classics.

The great Flood is present in almost all the civilizations of the world.

And there are more interesting  nuggets of information.

1.The Sanatna Dharma spread in South East Asia and Westwards of India seem to have been from the South.

2.Rama’s ancestor Satyavrata Manu migrated from the South to the North and his son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dynasty.

3.The South Asian spread of Santana Dharma seems to have preceded the spread int he west.

4.The remains of Tamil Culture is found in all the Asian countries , New Zealand and Australia.

5.The Incas whose ancestors were Tamils and they came later than the Africans.

6.The ancestors of the Africans, the Olmecs’ ancestors were Tamils from Godavari Kumtis.

7.This leads to the discrepancy in dating the Tamils and these Cultures.

8. Once we are able to distinguish between the Two Floods, we can see some light in this search.

The Southern part of India, below the Deccan Plateau/ Vindhya/Satpura Mountains seems to have separated from the landmass of India twice, one each at each Flood.

The earliest one formed the Kumari Kandam, which has been referred to by the Tamil Classics.

This spread was east wards towards reaching to Australia.

Later came the Lemuria, which had the Atlantis a part of it.

I have been trying to find the connection between the Mu Civilization and the Tamils.

Detailed Post on this follows shortly.

In the meantime I stumbled on some information I thought worth sharing.

The theory of the Lost Civilization of Mus was floated by James Churchward, a patented inventor, engineer.

‘he had found evidence of a lost civilisation: Mu. Mu was said to have been the Pacific equivalent of Atlantis, though Churchward said it was a colony of Mu. The first man to write about Mu was Augustus LePlongeon, who in archaeological circles has the distinction of being the first to make a photographic record of the ruins of Chichen Itza. In his books “Sacred Mysteries Among the Mayans and Quiches” (1886) and “Queen Moo and the Egyptian Sphinx” (1896), LePlongeon related his decipherment of the so-called “Troano Codex”, which he claimed showed that the Maya were the ancestors of the Ancient Egyptians. The Mayans had originated from a lost civilization, Mu, which was on par with Atlantis, and which had been destroyed by a volcanic eruption. He added that Queen Moo – clearly linked with Mu – had travelled from this continent to Egypt, where she had gone down into the history books under her new name of Isis. Unfortunately, when the Mayan language was deciphered several decades later, it was learned that LePlongeon’s interpretation of this document was completely erroneous, sometimes even using letters that were in fact no such thing. Jack Churchward, a descendent of James Churchward, states that LePlongeon relied on the translation of Brasseur de Bourbourg. Jack Churchward received an email from one of de Bourbourg’s descendants, who stated that the translation was done by channelling a spirit, which explains why LePlongeon erred so much when he interpreted the document based on this translation.
LePlongeon did put the lost civilization of Mu on the books, but left it to Theosophist Helena Blavatsky to popularize the lost continent, claiming it was the mystical birthplace of occult traditions. But the man who brought Mu from theory and speculation to reality was James Churchward, who claimed to have found hard physical evidence for the continent’s existence, when he was shown a secret library in India…

Chruchward reported that he found manuscripts signifying the connection between the Tamils and the Mus ina secret chamber in Ekambareswarar Temple, Kanchipuram,Tamil Nadu.

He had found some Tablets too.

‘Churchward’s discovery became famous when a major article on it appeared on November 10, 1924 in the “New York American” newspaper. In it, the central framework of Churchward’s claims about Mu was put forward. The civilisation was labelled “Empire of the Sun”. It was once a civilisation that had 64 million inhabitants, known as the Naacals, the priestly brotherhood, keepers of the sacred wisdom, who lived 50,000 years ago. All known ancient civilisations – India, Egypt and the Mayas – were decayed remnants of its many colonies.
In 1926, at the age of 75, Churchward published “The Lost Continent of Mu: Motherland of Man”. Where was Mu? It extended from north of Hawaii to the Fijis and Easter Island. Geologists find it hard to imagine dry land here, as the area is crossed by the so-called Andesite Line, making it geologically unlikely there was a landmass here. As Churchward never produced any evidence for his visit to the Naacal Library, several people treat his claims with scepticism.
So was Churchward a liar, or someone with genuine experiences? To understand the man better, it is noted that some aspects of the Mu legend are original to Churchward, some aren’t. It was LePlongeon who had first written about the “Nacaal”, in 1896, where he identifies them as Maya adepts and missionaries, with the word Naacal meaning “the exalted”. But LePlongeon therefore identified their homeland as Central America, not Mu in the Pacific Ocean, which was specific to Churchward.
What about his relationship with Blavatsky? They both claimed that in India, they had been exposed to “lost knowledge”. In the case of Blavatsky, her source of lost knowledge was the “Book of Dzyan”, supposedly written in Atlantis and presented to her by the Indian Mahatmas.
Indeed, though it could be argued that Churchward merely copied from the likes of Blavatsky and LePlongeon in his exploit of Mu, at the same time, it could be said that his story is totally true and that it confirms Blavatsky’s assertions and that Churchward spent several decades cementing his case before he went public and wrote his series of books on the subject.
Churchward was living in India in the 1880s, before he moved to the United States in 1889. It is during his time in India when he allegedly made contact with these Indian adepts – allowing for a period of roughly a decade where he could befriend, learn and study the language – more than sufficient time. Churchward said he studied the language which was said to be Mankind’s original language, which had labelled “Naga-Maya”, for more than two years
After having read the Naacal documents, he continued his searches for further information. In Burma, he visited an ancient Buddhist temple in search of the missing records, carrying letters of introduction from the Indian high priests with whom he studied…

‘His story truly hinges on whether or not he acquainted an Indian priest and saw numerous rare tablets. As a result, for years, the story of Churchward therefore remained a legend, while his books were reprinted. But never, anything new was found that might change the status quo. That changed when the German independent researcher, author and travel agency manager Thomas Ritter claimed he had entered a “secret library” underneath Sri Ekambaranatha temple in Kanchipuram, India in which he has found evidence of the lost civilisation of Mu.
He claims that on July 23, 2010, he was contacted by one Pachayappa, who invited him to enter the underground complex – and even allowed him to photograph some of its contents! Ritter states how “at chamber no. 4 the priest only allowed me to take pictures from two tablets, not from all this books there. The two tablets he showed me, are a little bit damaged. But you can see clearly the inscriptions.”
These two tablets are the so-called Naacal tablets, which James Churchward claimed to have seen many decades before. When Ritter published the material, there was immediately a torrent of disbelief, not helped by the realization that what Ritter apparently showed was a tablet unearthed in Byblos (Lebanon), discovered by French archaeologist Maurice Dunand. Because of the small amount of writing on the tablets, they have so far not been deciphered, though the script is identified – Proto-Byblian – and therefore not related to India. Indeed, the tablet presented by Ritter is in the Beirut Museum (Cat. 16598) and not a secret library in India.
Ritter claims that in July 2010, he was not welcomed by the usual young priest Narjan, whom he knew well, but an elder man, Pachayappa, who unlike Narjan, did not speak English. Pachayappa took him down into the underground structures of the temple complex. Ritter states: “Before an iron-bound door he stopped and pointed with some gesture to the bottom: ‘Rishi place!’” Then he opened the door, behind which the Nacaal library was located.
Whether Ritter is lying or not, he has at least specifically identified a temple as the location of the library: the Sri Ekambaranatha Temple in Kanchipuram, in the state of Tamil (India). The gate of the temple complex measures more than sixty metres tall, making it the largest temple tower in Southern India, and is made from granite, decorated with the images of gods, goddesses and heroes. The complex is a Hindu temple dedicated to Lord Shiva and is one of the five major Shiva temples, each of which representing a natural element. The Sri Ekambaranatha Temple represents the element earth. The temple’s history dates back to at least 600 AD, though could be older and is notorious for its “hallway with a thousand pillars”, as the temple’s inner walls are decorated with an array of 1,008 Shiva lingams, a symbol of the male energy.
But Ritter has drawn attention to the subterranean system of this complex, where he claims there are ten chambers. In nine of these chambers, they stored the tablets. Each room measured 25 meters long and 15 meters wide, with the ceiling quite low – he could touch it when he stretched his arm out. Pachayappa claimed that the inscriptions detailed the Rishi Puranas, the lives of the culture bringers of Ancient India. Inside were black granite tables, and there were tens of thousands of stone tablets. Ritter notes that “both sides of such postcard-sized stone tablets engraved with tiny lines were narrow characters covered in an unfamiliar script. Other plates showed fine geometric patterns on running, technical drawings, maps and astronomical images.” When he asked what they contained, he said it was the legacy of the Seven Sages.
In the first three chambers, the tablets are made from black granite, in the next three from gold. Each golden tablet was fourteen by ten centimeters, and about two to three milimeters thick and were bound like a book.
In the final three rooms, he found silver and bronze tablets that were hard to read, so Ritter used a handkerchief to polish the tablet, restoring it to its original state.
Ritter claims he was only allowed to photograph two tablets. All of these chambers have inscriptions, describing the lives and deeds of the rishis, and has produced photographs of these inscriptions.
The tenth room was located at the end of the corridor. In the middle of the room rose a column of about 1.50 m high from a solid black material, and according to Pachayappa, the material was not stone. Behind the lingam were statues of the Seven Rishis, placed in a semi-circle, and were made from a shimmering metal, which Ritter thought could be gold or silver-plated. One of them he was able to identify as Aghasthiya, who is always depicted as a dwarf.’

Kanchipuram Residents, please contribute.

Citations.

Secret Chamber in Ekambareswarar Temple

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Those who a little of Sanskrit and hinduism would know what an Intellectual Giant Adi Shankaracharya was.

But not many know the logic that has gone behind his establishing the four Mutts.

He chose four directions to found the Mutts.

All the Four vedas have been represented

Padmapadacharya (fl. 8th century CE) was an Indian philosopher, a follower of Adi Shankara.

Padmapāda’s dates are unknown, but modern scholarship places his life around the middle of the 8th century; similarly information about him comes mainly from hagiographies. What is known for certain is that he was a direct disciple of Shankara, of whom he was a younger contemporary. Padmapada was the first head of Puri Govardhana matha. He is believed to have founded a math by name Thekke Matham in Thrissur, Kerala. Keralites believe that he was a Nambuthiri belonging to Vemannillom, though according to textual sources he was from the Chola region in South India.

Sureśvara (also known as Sureśvarācārya, c. 750 CE) was an Indian philosopher, who studied under Śankara. Śankara is said to have entrusted to Sureśvara his first monastic institution, the Sringeri Sharada Peetham. Suresvara is believed to have founded the famous Naduvil Matham in Thrissur…

Little is known for sure about Sureśvara’s life. According to a strong tradition within Advaita Vedānta, before he became a disciple of Śankara, Sureśvara was known as Maņdana Miśra, a Mīmāmsāka. After being defeated in debate by Śankara, Miśra renounced his life as a householder, and became a sannyāsin. Whether this Maņdana Miśra was the same as the author of Brahmasiddhi is questioned by modern scholars, on the basis of textual analysis.

Hastamalakacharya (IAST Hastāmalakācārya) (c. 8th century CE) was a disciple of Adi Shankara, the Advaita philosopher. He was made the first Jagadguru (head) of the Dvāraka Pīṭhaṃ, the monastery founded by Adi Shankara in Dwaraka. Hastamalaka founded a matha by name Idayil Matham in Thrissur, Kerala.

The Mādhavīya Śaṃkaravijayam states that when Adi Shankara was at Kollur, he accepted invitations by brāhmaņas to have Bhikşa (alms or food) at their houses. On such an occasion he visited a village called Śrī Bali (present day Shivalli), where every house was said to emit the holy smell of the smoke of Agnihotra sacrifice, to accept Bhikşa. That place was inhabited by about two thousand brāhmaņas who were learned in the Vedas and performed the Yajnas prescribed in the Vedas. There was also a temple dedicated to Shiva and Parvati.

In that village there lived a brāhmaņa, Prabhākara, who was noted for his learning. He had a son who though appearing quite handsome, behaved rather like an idiot. Though upanayanam was performed for him, he did not take to studying the Vedas, instead preferred to sit around doing nothing. Hearing about Adi Shankara’s visit, Prabhākara approached the Acharya (teacher) with a load of fruit and prostrated before him. He also made his son prostrate before him. Prabhākara explained to Adi Shankara that his son behaved rather like an idiot and sat idly throughout the day.

Then, Adi Shankara addressed that young boy and asked him who he was. The boy replied in 12 verses containing the gist of theAdvaita philosophy.^[1] Thus Adi Shankara was immensely impressed with him and accepted him as his disciple. He was named Hastāmalaka (one with the amalaka fruit in his hand) since the knowledge of the Self was natural to him like an Amalaka fruit in one’s hand. Adi Shankara took the boy into his party and started towards his next destination..

Totakacharya (IAST Toṭakācārya) (c. 8th century CE) was a disciple of Ādi Śaṅkara, the Advaita philosopher. He was made the first Jagadguru (head) of the Jyotirmaṭha Pīthaṃ, the northern maṭha founded by Ādi Śaṅkara near Badrinath. He founded a maṭha by name Vadakke Matham in Thrissur, Kerala…

he Mādhavīya Śaṅkaravijayam states that when Ādi Śaṅkara was at Śṛṅgeri, he met a boy named Giri. Ādi Śaṅkara accepted the boy as his disciple. Giri was a hard-working and loyal servant of his Guru, Ādi Śaṅkara, though he did not appear bright to the other disciples. One day, Giri was washing his Guru’s clothes, when Ādi Śaṅkara sat down to begin a lesson on Advaita Vedānta. He however did not start the lesson saying he was waiting for Giri to come back from his chores and singing lessons. At this, Padmapada pointed to a wall and said that it would be the same if Ādi Śaṅkara taught to this dumb object as he taught to Giri. Now, Ādi Śaṅkara wanted to reward Giri for his loyalty and devotion. Thus he mentally granted Giri the complete knowledge of all the śāstras (sciences). The enlightened Giri composed extempore the Toṭākāṣṭakam, a Sanskrit poem in the toṭaka metre, in praise of the Guru Ādi Śaṅkara. Thus the dumb disciple Giri became Toṭākācārya.

Look at the way Shankaracharya appointed Pontiffs, from deep south to west and from North to South.

And three of these Mutts are  a part of falling into a pattern of same lattitude.

Geographically speaking the char Dham make a perfect square with Badrinath and Rameswaram falling on the same longitude and Dwarka (old) and Puri on the same latitude, representing the farthest north, east, west, and south points of India (at that time, before coastlines changed)

Badrinath, coordinates. Longitude.

79.49481879999996

Rameshwaram Longitiude.

79.31292910000002

Dwaraka latitude.

22.2441975

Puri Latitude.

19.8133822

* Present alignment.

Citations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Char_Dham

http://www.distancesfrom.in/odisha/puri-latitude-longitude/46.html

If the approach of Hinduism to God at a personal level , by treating God as Father, Mother, Sister,Brother …..even as a Lover by Humans, it is more interesting to hear Gods engaged in Human like Relationships among themselves.

This becomes exquisite when Tamil joins hands with Sanskrit and Sanatana Dharma in expressing Piety and Love of God.

We have Lord Shiva calling a  Saint , a Lady, Karaikkal Ammayaar as Mother.

During the month of Adi, Aashada, July/August when the Monsoon is in full flow in South India, the River Cauvery is in spate.

This normally occurs on the 18th of Tamil month Adi .

On this day, Lord Renganatha , Sri Rangam visites His sister River Cauvery at Amma Mantapam, Sri Rangam/Tiruchi and offers her His ‘Cheer’-brother’s Gift to Sister!

On this day, the Utsava Murthy, Renganatha arrives at Amma mantapam with His gifts for His sister Cauvery,

Renganatha, Srirangam, Vishnu Offers Gifts River Cauvery.

Turmeric powder, symbol of auspiciousness,

Kumkum,

Bangles,

New Saree.

All these are kept in a Muram(normally used for sifting impurities in Grains), signifying that only the best is offered)

The materials are carried by the Temple elephant.

They are then kept in front of the Renganatha Idol.

Then the Temple elephant shall take the Muram with the materials and leave them in  Cauvery by getting into the river!

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God is an Experience.

He can not be reasoned out.

He is beyond Mind.

Tamil calls Him ‘Kadavul’, one who is beyond the Mind.

You can not hold the Ocean in your palms.

How does one explain hunger, Pleasure, or Pain?

They have to be felt.

Many who have experienced  the ecstasy of God have attempted to explain it.

The fact is those who explain it in detail have not seen or experienced God,

Those who have experienced can not explain..

‘kandavar Vindilar,

Vindavar Kandilai'(Tamil)

But some great souls have attempted to try.

Ramakrishna Parahamsa was one.

He was seen as a Lunatic, when He was in Ecstasy!

Similar descriptions of god may be found in Tamil.

Abhirami Bhattar was one such.

He was One who had seen Her, Abhirami of Thirukkadavur.

I shall write on him and his poem Abirami Andhadai in detail

The poem is in a special format, Andhadi, where the last word, letter of the preceding verse is the first word or the letter of the succeeding verse, mostly the former.

The last verse shall end with a word that would be the first word of the Andhadi(Beginning of the End)

விரும்பித் தொழும் அடியார் விழிநீர் மல்கி, மெய் புளகம்
அரும்பித் ததும்பிய ஆனந்தம் ஆகி, அறிவு இழந்து
கரும்பின் களித்து, மொழி தடுமாறி, முன் சொன்ன எல்லாம்
தரும் பித்தர் ஆவர் என்றால் அபிராமி சமயம் நன்றே.

அபிராமி அம்மையைப் பக்தியோடு விரும்பித்தொழும் அடியவர்களின் கண்களில் நீரானது பெருகி, மெய்சிலிர்த்து, ஆனந்தம் ததும்பி, அறிவு மறந்து, வண்டைப் போல் களித்து, மொழி தடுமாறி, முன்பு சொல்லிய பித்தரைப் போல் ஆவார்கள் என்றால், அப்பேரானந்தத்திற்கு மூலமான அம்பிகையின் சமயமே மிகச்சிறந்ததாகும்..

Tamil Poem  explanation by Poet laureate Kannadasan

‘Tears stream down from the eyes,

Loses identity, with goose-pimples,

Overflowing with ecstasy , loses Mind,Discrimination,

Language falters, words get jumbled,

All this for those who immerse themselves in Abhirami and if this be the fruit of Her , it is the Best Religion to follow’

Well, that’s it.

As English translations are not available on the web, I have tried translating.

Definitely does not convey what Abhirami Bhattar intended.

I have tried.

Please check for a translation and enjoy the experience.

http://www.projectmadurai.org/pm_etexts/utf8/pmuni0026_01.html

India is land of temples.

The temples are so numerous that it is difficult to arrive at the total number of Temples in India.

Thiruvarur Thiagaraja temple by Night,Tamil Nadu.

(The government list of temples) is as follows:

Tamil Nadu—34,000 temples

Andhra Pradesh—43,000 temples

Karnataka—34, 000 temples

Kerala—28,000 Bagavathy temples (Travancore and Cochin Devaswam Board –TCDB-alone has 1800 temple)

(Four South Indian States alone total over 108,000 temples!!!)

Maharashtra—45,000 temples

Mathura Brindhavan area—5000 temples

Himachal Pradesh—over 2000 temples and sacred places

India has 29 States and seven Union Territories. all unified by One culture..

Along the banks of 1500 mile long Holy Ganges, thousands of sacred places! And along the 1500 mile long Himalayas every foot is considered sacred place. No need to mention about Badrinath, Kedarnath and Kailash.

Kanchipuram near Chennai alone has 108 temples. Madurai in Tamil Nadu has 50 temples.

On the banks of Cauvery we have innumerable temples built by the Tamil Kings,.

We have down south other temples by Hoysalas, Kakatiyas,

These do not include rock temples and village deity Temples.Chalukyas ,Nayakas….

Parashurama built 108 Shiva Temples.

In Kerala you find Bhagavathi Temple in every Village.

And we have modern temples, like Hare Krishna movement and in Tamil Nadu and Karnataka one can see virtually every street has a Temple in some form or the other.

In Tamil Nadu, every Peepal tree has a Vinayaga/Ganesha Idol.

I would venture to guess that there might be between 7 and 8 Lakh temples in India.

Reference.

http://www.speakingtree.in/spiritual-blogs/seekers/pilgrimage/108-000-temples-in-india

Visit the Link for a List, thought complete.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hindu_temples_in_India

We know that Thiruvannamalai is about a Billion old and Tirumala Tirupati is about 2100 Million Years old.

The Thiruvannamalai Hill is believed to be the Form of Linga, Agni Linga.

There is a Mountain in Laos with the Shiva Linga, 60 Meters, at its peak.

It is bathed by a Spring.

The water is carried by 632 Pipes.

The mountain has a natural linga on its peak. Image Credit. “Watphoupeaklinga03″. Licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0 via Wikimedia Commons – https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Watphoupeaklinga03.jpg#/media/File:Watphoupeaklinga03.jpg

Vat Phou has been founded by the Cham, according to the historians and was later one of the first temples of the Khmers outside Cambodia. The oldest ruins date from the fifth and sixth century. Vat Phou nestles at the base of Mount Phou Pasak, that got the name Lingaparvata, because on top a 60 metres high monolith reaches into the sky. This natural outcropping has led the people to consider it a sacred place long ago. It resembles to linga of Shiva, the god of the Hindu. To some visitors it resembles also a female breast (see picture by Diane, taken on Don Daeng). “Parvata” means “mountain,” so “Lingaparvata” is literally “Linga Mountain.” It is the same word-root as “Parvati” the name of Shiva’s consort, a mountain-goddess, notes art-and-archaeology.com. Willard Van De Bogart tells the story of Lingaparvata, the story was also published with a lot of book references. Read also the official site description by the Museum of Vat Phu.

Linga Parvata.

n Laos, Lingaparvata became a focal point for austerities to Shiva in the fifth century under the vocable of Bhadresvara, the god of the Chams at My Hon-Son on the Champa (Vietnam) coast. The city of Kuruksetra and then later called Sreshthapura was the holiest ancient city for kings to make pilgrimage (tirtha yatra). In fact a 250 mile royal road runs from Angkor Wat directly to Vat Phu indicating there was a direct link to Vat Phu from the new Ankorean center.

There is a haunting living quality to Lingaparvata as it protrudes so uniquely into the sky almost as if some giant were pushing upward deep from within its rocky interior. From a distance Lingaparvata appears as a linga or even a small temple set on the summit where rituals to the gods would be performed. There is a Chinese document from the Sui dynasty (589-616CE) that mentions a temple on the summit of a mountain named Ling-kia-po-p’o, which is guarded by a thousand soldiers and consecrated to a spirit named Po-to-li. It was Georges Coedes, the famous French epigraphists, who transliterated Ling-po-p’o into Lingaparvata.

It is by all accounts a magical mystifying experience to witness this singular protuberance setting itself alone amongst the mountain tops behind Vat Phu and forever capturing the fascination and wonder of anyone who sets eyes on it.

Mt. Phu Kao immediately focuses your attention to the summit as no other small mountain can do. It’s as if in its own way the mountain is trying to announce something profound or waiting to direct the eyes of the beholder to look at something very special. The mountain commands one to look in its direction because none of the other hills are as unique. It is unique and different and holds its own as a singular presence like none of the other hills. Surely such a mountain would be thought of having supernatural powers and perhaps in order to even address those powers rites and rituals would have had to be conducted long before any consideration would be given to scale its summit.

Here was a mountain top that was so singular in its appearance that innately one sensed there was something being conducted on its rocky protrusion that only the mountain itself knew about. The absolute profundity and sanctity that the mountain has held over the millennia has finally reached its symbolic identity as the linga of Lord Shiva himself.

This was Shiva’s pillar of fire that endlessly went into the heavens and endlessly passed down through the earth. Here was the penultimate axis of the world and once the Brahmins from India saw this outcropping they could do none other than name this mountain Lingaparvata. This one linga would be impossible to move, and would provide the devotee with a substantive feeling of awe simply by recognizing the latent power of this mountain made it possible to communicate with the gods. It was on this mountain that the priests had developed the Cakravartin cosmology that in 400 years would establish the consecration of the Khmer Empire where Shiva, Vishnu, and Brahma would be the gods that would establish divine kingship for another 500 years.

If Mt Kailash in Tibet is considered the home of Shiva and Arunachela is considered an actual manifestation of Shiva then I would offer that Lingaparvata could be thought of as the temple of Shiva whereby divine communication with all the gods would take place. My justification for making such a statement and associating Lingaparvata with a temple gateway to meet the gods is by recognizing that the Khmer Empire got its spiritual guidance from the environs of Kuruksetra. The combination of Vat Phu, Lingaparvata, the sacred spring and King Jayavarman IIÕs inscription at Vat Oubmong indicate an auspicious focal point that merits calling Lingaparvata a temple gate way to the gods. It was in 802CE that King Jayavarman II consecrated the Khmer Empire and he became the “Cakravatin” and established the union between god and king and the beginning of the “Devaraja” cult worship’

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Champasak Wat Phou Spring water being carried by pipes to bathe Shiva.

‘From Pakse, we first headed south 30 km, ferried across the Mekong River, cooled off over lunch at a riverside restaurant in Champasak town, then continued to the Khmer site of Wat Phu Champasak. Unlike the meticulously restored Phanom Rung site that we visited in Thailand, this one has a very atmospheric tumbled-down appearance. From a huge pond, a promenade flanked by stone lotus bud columns (most lying on the ground) leads to a pair of large rectangular worship pavilions, the most impressive buildings here due to their size and detailed carvings. The pathway continues west past a Nandi pavilion, now empty, and climbs past some guardian figures and a Ganesha to the main sanctuary. This structure of stone blocks has many detailed carvings of Hindu epics and gods. Originally it housed a Shiva lingam continually bathed in water from a nearby spring. Now it shelters several folksy Buddhas.

Citations.

http://www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/lingaparvata.html

http://www.arizonahandbook.com/ThaiLao2.htm

http://treasuresoflaos.blogspot.in/2010/08/champasak.html

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I have written quite a few articles on the Indian, specifically Tamil connection to Incas, Mayas and Aztecs.

That the idols of Shiva, Ganesha and Devi are found there as ruins.

Th Incas celebrated Makara Sankaranthi Tamil style.

The Sanctum of Chichen Itza Pyramid and the Sanctum of Chidambaram Natarja temple are identical.

As this blog journeys through the world to find Sanatana Dharma traces ,I have come across some information,( which I should have anticipated,in the light of the Tamils being the ancestors of the Meso American cultures, Chidambaram being replicated in Chichen Itza),worth sharing.

That is the design of the Tikal Temple in Complex bears a striking resemblance to Madurai Meenakshi Temple.

Tikal Temple Ruins, Guatemela. Image Credit. “Tikal Temple1 2006 08 11″ by Raymond Ostertag – Self-photographed. Licensed under CC BY-SA 2.5 via Wikimedia Commons – https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tikal_Temple1_2006_08_11.JPG#/media/File:Tikal_Temple1_2006_08_11.JPG

Madurai Meenakshi Amman Temple, Black and White.

Not only this.

One finds the ruins of a Thousand Pillars ,Aayirangal Mantapam, in chichen Itza , called warriors Tomb as the one in Madurai.

Devadasis performed there!

The Concept of Devadasis(Servant Maids of God) is a unique concept of the Tamils/Sanatna Dharma.

I may add that many South Indian Temples have the 1000 pillars, e.g.Chidambaram.Warangal

Considering that Meenakshi was a Queen and her husband was Shiva, who is a pre Sanatana Dharma Deity, I should have looked deeper in the Americas about the Tamil presence.

I had written that Satyavrata Manu, ancestor of Lord Rama migrated to Ayodhya and his son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dynasty.

This was due to a great Tsunami in the South of India.

Tamil classical literature speaks of this event in great detail.

Around the same time, Shiva , with his son Ganesha left westwards of India, leaving Murugan(Subrahmanya ) behind.

He seems to have moved eastwards of India.

More to follow on this later.

Ganesha and Shiva left their legacy in the west of India before reaching the Arctic where the Rig Veda was composed.

Then they returned to India through Russia through the Khyber Pass, which was manipulated to show that Aryans invaded India.

The remains of Tamil culture in the Mesoamerican and many Nations of the west would support my theory as also the remains and in many cases thriving Sanatana Dharma in South East Asia.

“The largest temple in Mexico City was the temple of Lord Shiva, the War God of the Mexican whom the Spanish invaders found entwined by golden snakes. This temple was built in the 15^th century and had 3000 Deva-Dasis to perform religious ceremonials. The Mexican temple had the Gopuram style. Here you see a reconstruction of the same after it was destroyed by the Spaniards. The temples at Tikal in Mexico also bore the imprint of our famous temple at Madura. No wonder E. G. Squire in his American archaeological researches in 1851 wrote:

“It is believed a proper examination of these monuments would disclose the fact that in their interior structure as well as in their exterior form and obvious purposes these buildings correspond with great exactness to those of Hindustan and the Indian Archipelago.’ Group of a Thousand Columns at the Chichen Itza World Heritage Site. Image Credit. “Chichen-Itza-1000-Warriors-Columns” by Uspn – Own work. Licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0 via Wikimedia Commons – https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chichen-Itza-1000-Warriors-Columns.jpg#/media/File:Chichen-Itza-1000-Warriors-Columns.jpg

The layout of Chichen Itza site core developed during its earlier phase of occupation, between 750 and 900 AD. Its final layout was developed after 900 AD, and the 10th century saw the rise of the city as a regional capital controlling the area from central Yucatán to the north coast, with its power extending down the east and west coasts of the peninsula.The earliest hieroglyphic date discovered at Chichen Itza is equivalent to 832 AD, while the last known date was recorded in the Osario temple in 998….

..Tikal.

The closest large modern settlements are Flores and Santa Elena, approximately 64 kilometres (40 mi) by road to the southwest.^[12] Tikal is approximately 303 kilometres (188 mi) north of Guatemala City. It is 19 kilometres (12 mi) south of the contemporary Maya city of Uaxactun and 30 kilometres (19 mi) northwest of Yaxha. The city was located 100 kilometres (62 mi) southeast of its great Classic Period rival, Calakmul, and 85 kilometres (53 mi) northwest of Calakmul’s ally Caracol, now in Belize.

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Chichen Itza is located in the eastern portion of Yucatán state in Mexico.The northern Yucatán Peninsula is arid, and the rivers in the interior all run underground. There are two large, natural sink holes, called cenotes, that could have provided plentiful water year round at Chichen, making it attractive for settlement. Of the two cenotes, the “Cenote Sagrado” or Sacred Cenote (also variously known as the Sacred Well or Well of Sacrifice), is the most famous.

According to post-Conquest sources (Maya and Spanish), pre-Columbian Maya sacrificed objects and human beings into the cenote as a form of worship to the Maya rain god Chaac. Edward Herbert Thompson dredged the Cenote Sagrado from 1904 to 1910, and recovered artifacts of gold, jade, pottery and incense, as well as human remains. A study of human remains taken from the Cenote Sagrado found that they had wounds consistent with human sacrifice.

Citations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chichen_Itza

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikal#Location

http://vedicempire.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=25&Itemid=9

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I had written on the fact that the US is the Patala Loka mentioned in the Hindu Puranas ,Ithihasas, Ramayana and Mahabharata.

And California is Kapila Aranya.

I had also written quite extensively on the Inca connection to Hinduism. specifically the Tamils and how they celebrate the Makara Sankaranthi.

Mayan temple Chichen Itza’s Sanctum is identical with the Sanctum of Chidambaram Nataraja.

In Yucatan ruins one finds the 1000 Pillared Mantap( Hall ) in Tikal,like the ones in the Hindu temples in Sout Indi.

We have Hanuman’s son Makaratwaja being worshiped in Honduras.

Rama’s ancestor Sagara,after whom the Ocean is called as Sagara, conducted an Aswamedha Yaga.

A decorated Horse is normally sent before the conclusion of the yaga.

One who stops the Horse must engage himself in a fight with the King who sent the Horse/conducts the Yaga.

Depending on the outcome of the battle, the Yaga will be concluded.

In this case, the horse wandered off and landed in the nether world and stood in front of Sage Kapila, an Avatar of Vishnu, who was meditating.

Meanwhile worried about the missing Horse, Sagara sent his 60,000 sons to search for Horse.

The located the Horse standing in front of Kapila, assumed Kapila and started harassing Him.

Kapila just opened His eyes and the 60000 sons of Sagara were turned into ashes.

Knowing this, Sagara came rushing and requested the forbearance of Kapila.

200,000 Years Old Colorado Shiva Temple.

Kapila told Sagara that his sons would attain Moksha,only after Ganges was  brought from the head of Lord Shiva and the ashes were immersed in the Ganges water.

And Sagara’s  descendant would achieve this after a strenuous effort.

And that was Bhagiratha.

River Bhagirathi is named after him.

And any ceacseless, undaunting effort is called Bhagiratha Prayathana.( some thing similar to Herculean Task)

The place where the sons of Sagara was turned into ashes is the Ash Island, US.

The places are now the Ash Island and Horse island US.

‘According to Jagadguru Sankaracharya all this happened in “Kapilaranya” which is exactly opposite to India in the Globe and which is currently California. Geography, of course, confirms that India and California locations are diametrically opposite to each other on the Globe. Therefore if one were to notionally pierce a needle from India on the Globe, it would hit California directly at the bottom. This also corroborates the view that the princes who dug deep into the ground from India reached California at the bottom. Also the existence of “Ash Island” and “Horse Island” next to California today lends credence to this explanation suggesting that “Ash Island” was the place where the princes were burnt to ashes and the “Horse Island” was the location where the horse was tied. Hindus popularly believe that the epic Ramayana happened at least 100,000 years ago. So, could it be that Hinduism is 100,000 years old and spread to far off locations including the geographic area, which is USA today?’

Citation.

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Faith Sustains, Cures, while Reason seeks out explanations.

For those in critical situations, solution to the problem is importnt than the explanations or the rationale.

Help reaches out to those who have Faith, I have seen.

It may not be some thing unnatural or something akin toa miracle.

It could be by an unexpected turn of events , help from an unexpected source or from a Stranger.

Then how come that even for those who have Faith, help does not arrive many a time?

The answer is your return is directly proportional to your investment , in this case , the intensity of Faith.

Krishna says in the Bhagavad Gita that total, unconditional surrender would beckon Him.

In the Karna Mantra He states,

Sarva Dharman Parthyajyasya Maamekam Charanam Vraja,’

The correct meaning is,

for those who abandon all actions and seek Refuge in Me alone.

He did not come to the aid of Draupadi,also called Krishnai,who was being stripped in an open Hall, though she was crying out to Krishna , at the same time holding on to her clothes.

He came to her when she freed her hands , threw her hands up!

When Tirunavukkarasar( Tamil Saint), called Appar, was  thrown out into the sea with a stone tied around him, he sang,

சொற்றுணை வேதியன் சோதி வானவன்
பொற்றுணைத் திருந்தடி பொருந்தக் கைதொழக்
கற்றுணைப் பூட்டியோர் கடலிற் பாய்ச்சினும்
நற்றுணை யாவது நமச்சி வாயவே. 				4.11.1  Thevaram. by Appar.


Even if you are thrown into the Ocean with a stone around you,

Nama Sivaya, the word of One, Who is,

The Protector of the Word, Vedas,

The Eternal Flame of the Heavens,

For those who worship His feet'

He, The Refuge ,Constant Companion.

This is Thirunavukkarasar's approach.

What does Abhirami Bhattar have to say on this?

'

அன்றே தடுத்து என்னை ஆண்டுகொண்டாய், கொண்டது அல்ல என்கை
நன்றே உனக்கு? இனி நான் என் செயினும் நடுக்கடலுள்
சென்றே விழினும், கரையேற்றுகை நின் திருவுளமோ.-
ஒன்றே, பல உருவே, அருவே, என் உமையவளே. Abhirami 30

அபிராமி அன்னையே! என் உமையவளே! நான் பாவங்களைச் செய்வதற்கு முன்பே என்னை தடுத்தாட் கொண்டவளே! நான் பாவங்களையே செய்தாலும், நடுக்கடலில் சென்று வீழ்ந்தாலும், அதனின்று காப்பது நின் கடைமையாகும். என்னை ஈடேற்ற முடியாது என்று சொன்னால் நன்றாகாது. இனி உன் திருவுளம்தான் என்னைக் கரை ஏற்ற வேண்டும் (பந்தபாசக் கடலில் இருந்து முக்திக் கரை ஏற்றுதல்). ஒன்றாகவும், பலவாகவும், விளங்குகின்ற என் உமையவளே!

Mother Abhirami,The One who appears as Many,

You have prevented me from committing Sins and taken over long back,

If I commit sins even now, and I fall in the deep ocean.

It is your Job to take care,

நன்றே வருகினும், தீதே விளைகினும், நான் அறிவது
ஒன்றேயும் இல்லை, உனக்கே பரம்: எனக்கு உள்ளம் எல்லாம்
அன்றே உனது என்று அளித்து விட்டேன்:- அழியாத குணக்
குன்றே, அருட்கடலே, இமவான் பெற்ற கோமளமே. Abhrami Andhadi 90

ஏ, அபிராமி! அழியாத குணக்குன்றே! அருட்கடலே! மலையரசன் பெற்றெடுத்த அழகிய கோமள வல்லியே! எனக்கு உரிமை என்று எப்பொருளும் இல்லை. அனைத்தையும் அன்றே உன்னுடையதாக்கி விட்டேன். இனி எனக்கு நல்லதே வந்தாலும், தீமையே விளைந்தாலும், அவற்றை உணராது விருப்பு, வெறுப்பற்றவனாவேன். இனி என்னை உனக்கே பரம் என்று ஆக்கினேன்.

Let auspiciousness strike me or that which is painful,

I have no idea nor I know of it,

It’s all yours,

For I have you given you all that is supposed to be Mine, including my Mind,

Abhirami, Daughter of The Himalayas,The Ocean of  Graciousness,’

Thiruvannamalai is about a Billion years old,Tirupati 2100 Million Years, An archeological site near Chennai containing Advanced Tamil Civilization, Agastya crossed Vindhyas around 5000 BC,

Tamil language is estimated to be 74, 0000 years old(It should be dated earlier on the available evidence) and they quote the Vedas, they in turn Tamil!

Yet we would date  the  Rig Veda around 5000 BC!

Now there is a find in Rakhigarhi, Haryana which is dated around 6000 BC.

Well, some people might be happy to date Indian History by 1600 AD when the British came to India!

‘ Rakhigarhi, Haryana, Harappan site,India.

Latest research has put the date of the origin of the Indus Valley Civilisation at 6,000 years before Christ, which contests the current theory that the settlements around the Indus began around 3750 BC.

Ever since the excavations at Harappa and Mohenjo-daro in the early 1920s, the civilisation was considered almost as old as those of Egypt and Mesopotamia.

The finding was announced at the “International Conference on Harappan Archaeology”, recently organised by the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) in Chandigarh.

Based on their research, BR Mani, ASI joint director general, and KN Dikshit, former ASI joint director general, said in a presentation: “The preliminary results of the data from early sites of the Indo-Pak subcontinent suggest that the Indian civilisation emerged in the 8th millennium BC in the Ghaggar-Hakra and Baluchistan area.”

“On the basis of radio-metric dates from Bhirrana (Haryana), the cultural remains of the pre-early Harappan horizon go back to 7380 BC to 6201 BC.”
Excavations had been carried out at two sites in Pakistan and Bhirrana, Kunal, Rakhigarhi and Baror in India.

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The Harappan or Indus Valley Civilisation is one of the three oldest urban civilisations, along with Egypt and Mesopotamia, but it is the least understood. Its script is yet to be deciphered, and the knowledge of social structures and life during that period is scant. Rakhigarhi promises to change this as new discoveries continue to be made. It is one of the few Harappan sites which has an unbroken history of settlement—Early Harappan farming communities from 6000 to 4500 BC, followed by the Early Mature Harappan urbanisation phase from 4500 to 3000 BC, and then the highly urbanised Mature Harappan era from 3000 BC to the mysterious collapse of the civilisation around 1800 BC. That’s more than 4,000 years of ancient human history packed into its rich soil.

Until now, experts believed that Mohenjo-daro in Pakistan was the largest among the 2,000 Harappan sites known to exist in India, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The archaeological remains at Mohenjo-daro extend around 300 hectares. However, with the discovery of two more mounds, adding to the seven mounds already discovered, the total area of the archaeological site of Rakhigarhi now measures 350 hectares. The two newly-discovered mounds spread over 25 hectares each and are situated to the east and west of the main site. Unfortunately, much of the mounds have been destroyed for cultivation.

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The Indus Valley Tradition is divided into four eras, and each era can be divided into various phases. A phase is an archaeological unit possessing traits sufficiently characteristic to distinguish it from all other units similarly conceived Each phase can be subdivided into interaction systems.

Citations.

http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/rakhigarhi-now-biggest-harappan-site-after-two-new-mounds-discovered-001500#ixzz3i1AzFYnE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periodization_of_the_Indus_Valley_Civilization

http://www.hindustantimes.com/newdelhi/indus-valley-2-000-years-older-than-thought/article1-954601.aspx

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In my search for the spread of Sanatana Dharma, Hinduism, the material for China is hard to come by.

Considering the fact that the route for travel from and to from Bharatavarsha had taken place in the South,South East,West and North West and due East,

Remains of Sanatana Dharma have been found in all the countries of the world(Including China, though it is quite meagre when compared to the other countries),

Sanatana Dharma was well entrenched in South East Asia and is present there even today,

in the Southeastern countries, Buddhism, which is closely associated with Hinduism is present,

Tamil and Sanskrit texts mention China as a part of Bharata Varsha,

Lord Nataraja was considered as the Protector of Buddhism(!)

Shiva worship was present in ancient China,

So was Murugan, Subrahmanya worship,

it was only a matter of time and luck I could get hold on information that the Tamils were associated with China.

That, too a Shiva Idol was consecrated by the Firman of Kublai Khan himself.

We also find epigraph in Tamil in China.

Bilingual (Tamil & Chinese) inscription in China dated Saka era 1203 (1281 CE) Mentions the erection of deity Thirukkaniccuramudaiyar by one Sambandapperumal for the well being of Chinese emperor Cekacaikan Parman

The Story.

          This Tamil Language inscription was found in China.

                It was found about 500 miles north of Canton, in a place called Chuan Chou. This is a port city. It was an important port city in the ancient times also.

‘Normally, the Tamils used to sail to Ta Kua Pa in the west coast of Thailand.
                They would then take an overland journey across the Isthmus of Kra to other ports like Nakon SiTammarat or Songkla. These ports were on the east coast of Thailand. From there they would sail on to one of the ports of present day Vietnam. Then they would sail northwards to Canton.

                A straight sail would be a longer distance which would take them across the Bay of Bengal, Straits of Malacca, Gulf of Siam, and South China Sea. They would have to sail around the Malay Peninsula. This would have increased their journey by more than a thousand miles and would have taken up several more months.

                Apart from Canton, the Tamils had gone to other places also and
established their own colonies. The merchant guilds like ‘Thisai Aayiraththu AinnuuRRuvar’ was very active around this part of the world.

                In Chuan Chou, there was a Sivan Temple. In that temple, an image of Siva was consecrated under the ‘Firman’ – royal orders of ‘Sekasai Khan’.
                This was done for the health of ‘Sekasai Khan’.
                ‘Sekasai Khan’ in this inscription is the name of Kublai Khan himself.
                His full name was Kublai Sekcen Khan.
                Sekcen Khan became Sekasai Khan in Tamil.
                The Sivan Temple was known as ThiruKathaleesvaram and the Lord of the temple was known as ThiruKathaleesvaram udaiya Naayanaar.
                The person who executed the order was Thava ChakkaravarththikaL Sampandha PerumaL.
                It was done on the Chithra Paurnami day of Saka Era 1203 – 1281 AD.

                This was during the rule of Kublai Khan who came to power in 1260 and ruled until 1294 AD.

Kublai Khan.

CitSeptember 23, 1215 – February 18, 1294), born Kublai (Mongolian: Хубилай, Xubilaĭ; Middle Mongolian: Qubilai; Chinese: 忽必烈; pinyin: Hūbìliè, Turkish: Kubilay Han; also spelled Khubilai) and also known by the temple name Shizu (Emperor Shizu of Yuan; Chinese: 元世祖; pinyin: Yuán Shìzǔ; Wade–Giles: Yüan Shih-tsu), was the fifth Khagan (Great Khan) of the Mongol Empire(Ikh Mongol Uls), reigning from 1260 to 1294. He also founded the Yuan dynasty in China in 1271, a division of the Mongol Empire, and ruled as the first Yuan emperor until his death in 1294.ation.

Text, Images,

Research by VIDYALANKARA
DR.S.JAYABARATHI

http://www.visvacomplex.com/Tamil_Inscription_Of_China.html

http://www.tnarch.gov.in/epi/ins2.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kublai_Khan

Please refer my posts.

Chinese descendants of Pururava,

Tamil ancestors of Chinese,Shiva Chief Deity,

Murugan In China, Natarja Protector of Buddhism

I have lamented the fact that despite evidence mounting up about the antiquity of Indian History.

There is abundant evidence that Indian History dates back to more than 50,000 years by a conservative estimate.

Please check my Posts.

Still we cling to 5000 BC as the bench mark,the date assigned to the Rig veda.

The Riwatian People of India date back to 1,900,000 BC!

Many skim the eastern part of India when studying Indian History,especially that of Bengal.

Surprise in store.

Ancient India Timeline chart.

I shall be writing on this in my effort to find out the antiquity of Indian culture.

Here is a List of Empires of India from Vedic Times.

I shall be writing in detail on each.

Citation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Bengal#Etymology

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Most of us are aware of the fact that Janamejaya was Arjuna’s Grandson and the Grandson of Abhimanyu.

He conducted the Sarpa Yaga, sacrifice of the Snakes to avenge his father Parishits’ deat at the hands of a Snake.

What makes him great is that he was the king who consolidated the Kuru Dynasty and stabilised the Bharatavarsha.

He had the Karma Kanda portion of the Vedas systematized and had them as Srauta.

These actions to be performed by an individual during the course of his life in various stages,

Brahmacharya,

Gruhastha,

Vanaprastha and

Sanyasi.

It is a different matter that these practices were carried to the extreme and they were followed more by rote than by conviction and understanding of the Gnana Kanda of the Vedas.

The message of the Vedas is that , the Ultimate Aim being the Realization of Brahman, The Reality, the performance of actions are to be a tool in the path Realization as Brahman is identified with Knowledge.

Unfortunately, the spirit was lost and the practice of performing Srauta Karmas reached a peak with the advent of Mimamsa.

And innumerable Deities were worshiped, causing confusion.

This caused a revulsion and result was the emergence of Buddha, a Brahmin of Gautama Gotra to question the existence and authenticity of the Vedas.

Buddhism ran rampantly till Shankaracharya stopped the tide and reorganised Hinduism by establishing Shan Mathas , Six Modes of Worship and streamlining the procedures.

Srauta Karmas generally relate to the Yagnyas, which are around 400.

Read my Post on this.

Śrauta (Devanagari श्रौत) traditions are conservative ritualistic traditions of the historical Vedic religion in Hinduism, based on the body of Śruti literature. They are still practiced in India today although constituting a small minority within Hinduism…

Shrauta traditions.

• Rig veda: Ashvalayana (Shakala) and Sankhayana (Kausitaki)
• Sama veda: Drahyayana (Kauthuma), Latyayana (Ranayaniya), Jaiminiya
• Krishna Yajurveda: Baudhayana, Vadhoola, Bharadvaja, Apastamba, Hiranyakesin, Vaikhanasa (for Taittiriya) and Manava, Varaha (for Maitrayani)
• Shukla Yajurveda: Katyayana (for Kanva and Madhyandina both)
• Atharva Veda: Vaitana (Shaunaka and Paippalada)

The Shrauta tradition places more emphasis on the performance of rituals rather than having a set of beliefs. The practices of the Shrauta tradition mainly consist of yajnas. Theyajnas are divided into two categories, nitya-karma and kaamya karma. Nitya-karma refers to those yajnas that have to be performed daily or as per occasion. Kaamya-karmarefers to those yajnas performed with a particular purpose, such as wishing for rain, cattle, overlordship or for a son (e.g. Putrakameshti).

It may be noted that since the Srata is from Sruti, it has more authority than Smritis.

But following Sratha is to be tempered with the total understanding of the Vedas, mainly the Gnana Kanda which states that Knowledge and attainment of Liberation is the goal of Life , not mere performance of Karmas.

However Karma Yoga states that performance of actions is a tool by itself.

But as Krishna puts it performance of Karma is the renunciation of the fruits of action in the Mind, more a Sankalpa.

Contrary views welcome.

Janamejaya.

Janmejay (Sanskrit: जनमेजय) was a Kuru king who reigned during the Middle Vedic period (12th or 11th century BCE). Along with his predecessor Parikshit, he played a decisive role in the consolidation of the Kuru state, the arrangement of Vedic hymns into collections and the development of the orthodox srauta ritual, transforming the Kuru realm into the dominant political and cultural center of northern Iron Age India. He also appears as an important figure in many later legends and traditions, such as theMahabharata, where he appears as the listener of the first narration of the great epic

Citation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrauta

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janamejaya

The influence of Bharatavarsha is amazing.

The people of India, then called Bharatavarsha, migrated to all parts of the world, East,Southeast,South,West, North, Northwest of India.

The migration seems to have been from the South mostly.

The return of the descendants of these migrants was from the North through the Khyber Pass.

As of now, the first migration seems to have been that of Shiva, with Ganesha towards the west of India, when a Tsunami struck the South,

And that was the period when Satyavrata Manu, the ancestor of Lord Rama,left for Ayodhya where his son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dynasty.

Another group traveled towards the east, south east part of Asia from the south.

( I am trying to ascertain the period)

Now it looks as thought this migration took place later than Shiva’s migration to west.

However some archeological evidence suggests that the migration to Southeast Asia was earlier.

Now there is literary evidence from Chinese and Indian sources that the Mekong Delta was called the Funan Kingdom..

The area included here had Cambodia, Thailand and Vietnam.

Considering the evidence being reproduced below and the fact that a Korean Queen was from Ayodhya, it stands to reason that the influence of Bharatavarsha was very great in the ancient times.

The Mekong Delta was ruled by Funan Kings.(68-150)

The Funan Kingdom was founded by Kaundinya,a Brahmin from Kanchipuram,Tamil Nadu.

This stele found at Tháp Mười in Đồng Tháp Province, Vietnam and now located in the Museum of History in Ho Chi Minh City is one of the few extant writings that can be attributed confidently to the kingdom of Funan. The text is in Sanskrit, written in Grantha alphabet of the Pallava dynasty, dated to the mid-5th century AD, and tells of a donation in honor of Vishnu by a Prince Gunavarman of the Kaundinya lineage. “Funan stele” by Bình Giang – Own work. Licensed under Public Domain via Wikimedia Commons – https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Funan_stele.JPG#/media/File:Funan_stele.JPG

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Kingdom of Funan (Chinese: 扶南; pinyin: Fúnán) (Khmer: អាណាចក្រហ្វូណន) was the name given by the Chinese to an ancient kingdom located in southern Southeast Asia centered on the Mekong Delta that existed from the first to sixth century CE. The name is found in Chinese historical texts describing the kingdom, and the most extensive descriptions are largely based on the report of two Chinese diplomats, Kang Tai and Zhu Ying, representing the Wu Kingdom of Nanking who sojourned in Funan in the mid-3rd century AD.^:24

Funan is known in the modern languages of the region as វ្នំ Vnom (Khmer) or នគរភ្ Nokor Phnom (Khmer), ฟูนาน (Thai), and Phù Nam (Vietnamese), however, the name Funan is not found in any texts of local origin from the period, and it is not known what name the people of Funan gave to their polity. Some scholars argued that ancient Chinese scholars transcribed the word Funanfrom a word related to the Khmer word bnaṃ or vnaṃ (modern: phnoṃ, meaning “mountain”), others however thought that Funanmay not be a transcription at all, rather it meant what it says in Chinese, meaning something like “Pacified South”.

Like the very name of the kingdom, the ethno-linguistic nature of the people is the subject of much discussion among specialists. The leading hypotheses are that the Funanese were mostly Mon–Khmer, or that they were mostly Austronesian, or that they constituted a multi-ethnic society. The available evidence is inconclusive on this issue. Michael Vickery has said that, even though identification of the language of Funan is not possible, the evidence strongly suggests that the population was Khmer.^[2] The results of archaeology at Oc Eo have demonstrated “no true discontinuity between Oc Eo and pre-Angkorian levels”, indicating Khmer linguistic dominance in the area under Funan control…

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Some scholars have identified the conqueror Hùntián of the Book of Liang with the Brahmin Kauṇḍinya who married a nāga (snake) princess named Somā, as set forth in aSanskrit inscription found at Mỹ Sơn and dated AD 658 (see below). Other scholars^[15] have rejected this identification, pointing out that the word “Hùntián” has only two syllables, while the word “Kauṇḍinya” has three, and arguing that Chinese scholars would not have used a two-syllable Chinese word to transcribe a three-syllable word from another language. However, the name “Kaundinya” appears in a number of independent sources and seems to point to a figure of some importance in the history of Funan.

Kaundinya in the Chinese sources

Even if the Chinese “Hùntián” is not the proper transcription of the Sanskrit “Kaundinya”, the name “Kaundinya” [Kauṇḍinya, Koṇḍañña, Koṇḍinya, etc.] is nevertheless an important one in the history of Funan as written by the Chinese historians: however, they transcribed it not as “Hùntián,” but as “Qiáochénrú” 僑陳如.^[17] A person of that name is mentioned in the Book of Liang in a story that appears somewhat after the story of Hùntián. According to this source, Qiáochénrú was one of the successors of the king Tiānzhú Zhāntán 天竺旃檀 (“Candana from India”), a ruler of Funan who in the year 357 AD sent tamed elephants as tribute to the Emperor Mu of Jin (r. 344–361; personal name: Sīmǎ Dān 司馬聃): “He [Qiáochénrú] was originally a Brahmin from India. There a voice told him: ʻyou must go reign over Fúnán,ʼ and he rejoiced in his heart. In the south, he arrived at Pánpán 盤盤. The people of Fúnán appeared to him; the whole kingdom rose up with joy, went before him, and chose him king. He changed all the laws to conform to the system of India.”

Kaundinya in the inscription of Mỹ Sơn

The story of Kaundinya is also set forth briefly in the Sanskrit inscription C. 96 of the Cham king Prakasadharma found at Mỹ Sơn. It is dated Sunday, 18 February, 658 AD (and thus belongs to the post-Funanese period) and states in relevant part (stanzas XVI-XVIII): “It was there [at the city of Bhavapura] that Kauṇḍinya, the foremost among brahmins, planted the spear which he had obtained from Droṇa’s Son Aśvatthāman, the best of brahmins. There was a daughter of a king of serpents, called “Somā,” who founded a family in this world. Having attained, through love, to a radically different element, she lived in the abode of man. She was taken as wife by the excellent Brahmin Kauṇḍinya for the sake of (accomplishing) a certain task …”.

Kaundinya in the inscription of Tháp Mười

The Sanskrit inscription (K.5) of Tháp Mười (known as “Pràsàt Prằṃ Lovêṅ” in Khmer), which is now on display in the Museum of Vietnamese History in Ho Chi Minh City, refers to a Prince Guṇavarman, younger son (nṛpasunu—bālo pi) of a king Ja[yavarman] who was “the moon of the Kauṇḍinya line (… kauṇḍi[n]ya[vaṅ]śaśaśinā …) and chief “of a realm wrested from the mud”.

Kaundinya in Khmer folklore

The legend of Kaundinya is paralleled in modern Khmer folklore, where the foreign prince is known as “Preah Thaong” and the queen as “Neang Neak”. In this version of the story, Preah Thaong arrives by sea to an island marked by a giant thlok tree, native to Cambodia. On the island, he finds the home of the nāgas and meets Neang Neak, daughter of the nāga king. He marries her with blessings from her father and returns to the human world. The nāga king drinks the sea around the island and confers the name “Kampuchea Thipdei”, which is derived from the Sanskrit (Kambujādhipati) and may be translated into English as “the lord of Cambodia”. In another version, it is stated that Preah Thaong fights Neang Neak.

Other occurrences of the name “Kaundinya” in the history of Funan.

The name “Kauṇḍinya” is well-known from Tamil inscriptions of the 1st millennium AD, and it seems that Funan was ruled up the 6th century AD by a clan of the same name. According to the Nán Qí shū 南齊書 (Book of Southern Qi) of Xiāo Zīxiǎn 簫子顯 (485–537) the Fúnán king Qiáochénrú Shéyébámó 僑陳如闍耶跋摩 (Kauṇḍinya Jayavarman) “sent in the year 484 the Buddhist monk Nàqiéxiān 那伽仙 (Nāgasena) to offer presents to the Chinese emperor and to ask the emperor at the same time for help in conquering Línyì (north of Campā) … The emperor of China thanked Shéyébámó for his presents, but sent no troops against Línyì”.

Citation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Funan#History